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Monday, August 06, 2007
Emergent Posters
I was doing my usual checks of blogs and sites and noticed that I forgot to mention this one
Strikes me as clever, well-done, hateful and divisive. The church should be putting its efforts into saving souls not slaying one another. The church should be its own best critic, I'll agree, and while I suspect those creating these posters are believers, I would not be wholly shocked if they were not and were simply enjoying playing on our tendency to divide and decease.
I got a flyer awhile back from a church that said, "When you go to church here, you'll KNOW you've been to church. We have stained glass, we sing the old hymns and we only read from the King James Bible." Is this what we're aiming for?
nate c. What we are aiming for is scriptural foundation and practice. There is nothing in the Bible that suggests we sacrifice Truth for the sake of unity. The apostles did not condone or practice such sloppy orthodoxy. Division is not always a bad thing. Look to the roman catholic abomination for a good example of "united" authority, and practice. Is that what we are aiming for?
Matthew 10: 34 "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." Jesus Christ
(I suggest reading the whole of Matt 10 as the greater context speaks volumes.)
If they'd been specific and targeted the "emergent" church only and not included all those who could be lumped into the "emerging church" movement, I'd have less of an issue.
"Scriptural foundation and practice" is your goal and the goal of many involved in this movement. While some have gone wandering in the wilderness of liberal unorthodoxy, others are simply trying to divorce themselves from some of the earthly traditions of American evangelicalism and are seeking to engage the lost where they are. Jesus did the very same thing. We don't want to "sacrifice Truth for the sake of unity" but we also don't want to "throw the baby out with the bathwater."
I hope you can see the difference between the mean spirited ones at team pyro and the ones that more accurately represent our emerging values.
It is sad that one side mocks instead of converses and lies and slanders in order to protect truth...
I wonder how one can rationalize protecting truth with lies and misrepresentation that is truly bearing false witness against another.
I used to respect Phil Johnson...
Well you asked... I see it only as divisive and see that scripture teaches us to stay away from divisive men... I think these poster only exposed the darkness and hardness of team pyros hearts.
7 comments:
oh, these posters are amazing! Have you heard of all the controversy around them though?
Strikes me as clever, well-done, hateful and divisive. The church should be putting its efforts into saving souls not slaying one another. The church should be its own best critic, I'll agree, and while I suspect those creating these posters are believers, I would not be wholly shocked if they were not and were simply enjoying playing on our tendency to divide and decease.
I got a flyer awhile back from a church that said, "When you go to church here, you'll KNOW you've been to church. We have stained glass, we sing the old hymns and we only read from the King James Bible." Is this what we're aiming for?
nate c.
What we are aiming for is scriptural foundation and practice.
There is nothing in the Bible that suggests we sacrifice Truth for the sake of unity. The apostles did not condone or practice such sloppy orthodoxy.
Division is not always a bad thing. Look to the roman catholic abomination for a good example of "united" authority, and practice.
Is that what we are aiming for?
Matthew 10:
34 "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."
Jesus Christ
(I suggest reading the whole of Matt 10 as the greater context speaks volumes.)
If they'd been specific and targeted the "emergent" church only and not included all those who could be lumped into the "emerging church" movement, I'd have less of an issue.
"Scriptural foundation and practice" is your goal and the goal of many involved in this movement. While some have gone wandering in the wilderness of liberal unorthodoxy, others are simply trying to divorce themselves from some of the earthly traditions of American evangelicalism and are seeking to engage the lost where they are. Jesus did the very same thing. We don't want to "sacrifice Truth for the sake of unity" but we also don't want to "throw the baby out with the bathwater."
Thanks for wrestling with these issues.
I am still trying to figure out who exactly these posts are supposed to be directed at, and how they divisiveness honors God.
Adam,
These posters are aimed at the Emerging Church Movement.
This movement is what dishonors God.
Everyone wants everyone to get along and not hurt anyone's feelings. You cannot stand for truth and not hurt someones feelings.
DT
These are a gross misrepresentation...
Emerging Grace gave this more accurate response which was only met with the response that "the emergents are whiners" which i think was just sad.
Here is the more accurate posters.
I hope you can see the difference between the mean spirited ones at team pyro and the ones that more accurately represent our emerging values.
It is sad that one side mocks instead of converses and lies and slanders in order to protect truth...
I wonder how one can rationalize protecting truth with lies and misrepresentation that is truly bearing false witness against another.
I used to respect Phil Johnson...
Well you asked... I see it only as divisive and see that scripture teaches us to stay away from divisive men... I think these poster only exposed the darkness and hardness of team pyros hearts.
Not so blessed by all that,
iggy
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