Saturday, March 22, 2008

LUNACY AND SADNESS

It makes me mad and sad to see this every year. But the Catholic Church continues its idolatry and ritualism that breeds this ignorance.

Maybe this article will enlighten some to the mystical union the RCC promotes. Just go to Israel during the week leading up to Easter and walk the supposed route that Jesus took and pray and you will be moved. You will be closer to God than you've ever been.

What happened to loving God, living holy, and pointing others to Him? I guess I'm old fashioned.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

Guess you didn't read the article. If you did, then you were not
truthful in your comments.

The country's dominant Catholic Church disapproves of the crucifixions and flagellations as a misrepresentation of the faith.

"The spiritual dimension is totally lost, and it's entered into only because of some shows, some manifestations for other people to be satisfied with or to see," said Bishop Deogracias Iniguez.

Dead Theologians said...

Anonymous,

Obviously you did not read the article.

"The atmosphere was festive, with hawkers selling beer, ice-cream and souvenir whips. VIPs watched from a specially elevated "viewing platform"."

"We are not trying to go against tradition because whipping has somewhat already become some form of atonement for sins for some of us."

What??

Maybe you can explain the Good Friday pilgrimage to me.

DT

Anonymous said...

"We are not trying to go against tradition because whipping has somewhat already become some form of atonement for sins for some of us."

What??

You should ask the health secretary about his comments. You might be right in criticising the 'pilgrimage' part, based on your convictions. But you kind of suggested that the whole thing was the making of RCC. If someone in your church is homosexual, doesn't mean I can accuse the whole of your church.

Dead Theologians said...

Anonymous,

You said "You might be right in criticising the 'pilgrimage' part, based on your convictions."

Based on my convictions? Do you not agree that the RCC is a false religion?

DT

Anonymous said...

DT,
How can I trust you to engage in a sincere debate on RCC, when you haven't yet proved that your post was not a false accusation on RCC?

Dead Theologians said...

Anonymous,

You said "when you haven't yet proved that your post was not a false accusation on RCC?"

When the RCC comes out with a formal denunciation of the said practice, then I will remove the post. But, they won't because it happens every year and the RCC remains silent.

You just don't like me bringing this to light because it makes the RCC look foolish.

DT

Anonymous said...

"You just don't like me bringing this to light because it makes the RCC look foolish."

Another false accusation!

I see an over-zealous nature in you to bring down RCC. But just a suggestion - stick to the truth (and based on facts) in your statements. May be you could convince a few.
BTW you know who the real accuser is! Better not be on his side.

Dead Theologians said...

Anonymous,

If you are willing to dialog with me on the facets of the RCC I will be glad to.

You claiming that my assumptions are false just because you say they are is not even good logic.

DT

MM said...

Dear DT,

Sorry to jump in so late in the game, but I was curious to see what you all were up to here... and in the Church's calendar, it's still Easter : )

Apart from failing to understand your sarcasm about pilgrimmages that honor Jesus, I am puzzled by your inability to recognize the Church's official denunciation of these crucifixions. The Church's denunciation came almost immediately from the reigning bishop, as Anonymous pointed out. The Church's magisterium has been equally clear in its prohibition on mutilations of the body.

It's a common fallacy to deduce the position of the whole from the behavior of a few, and clearly popular piety can go in a variety of directions, for better or for worse, as your blog clearly attests. The Church's teaching may be another matter entirely.

By the way, do you even refer to the Catholic Catechism to support your critical posts? If not, I'd be happy to send one to you!

All the best to you-

Dead Theologians said...

MM,

Good to see that you are willing to endour "my sarcasm.":))

I think this comment sums up the view of this...

"Thousands watched the spectacle in Cutud, which has grown from a village production started in 1962 to a media and tourist attraction copied in other parts of the country."

"Filipinos infuse their Catholic faith with local superstitions and some people avoid taking a shower or doing laundry after 3 p.m. (0700 GMT) on Good Friday - the time Chrst was believed to have died - for fear of bad luck."

Huh??

>>It's a common fallacy to deduce the position of the whole from the behavior of a few, and clearly popular piety can go in a variety of directions, for better or for worse, as your blog clearly attests.

I agree with the first part. I am not sure if I should smile or feel slapped on the second part.

>>By the way, do you even refer to the Catholic Catechism to support your critical posts? If not, I'd be happy to send one to you!

Go ahead and send it. But are you willing to engage in a dialog in pursuit of truth?

Blessings,
DT

MM said...

DT,

Great! Why don't you refer me to your mailing address, and I will gladly get a copy of the Catechism to you for your reference. You'll find that it's indexed by subject for easy reference... and almost every sentence is footnoted with supporting references to Scripture and the Church Fathers. It's a great resource. You can email me at newfaithful(at)gmail.com.

I react with you-with a resounding HUH?!- to the comment you cite. Obviously, these are references to a tabloid. They in no way reflect the teaching of the Church.

And, needless to say, of course I am willing to dialogue, particularly with resonable and informed positions. :)

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